My review of the pua bootcamp.
Start of the pua bootcamp and we recieved about 1.5 hour of theory with Kingy and Ciearn followed by 3.5 hours infield.
I opened at least 20 sets. Direct/Hey. I couldn’t get most of the girls to stop
1 Facebook closed: 2 set in direct. 2 Italian girls. Have a ten minutes chat about studying in London and parties. They arrived 2 weeks ago to study and they didn’t have a telephone yet so I took her facebook.
Send her a friend request the day after that she accepted.
Night game (Waxy O’Conner’s)
At least 10 sets. Direct opener/Hey. It took me a while to get in state but I saw a progress from set to set.
30 minutes feed back from Kingy and Cieran at the end of the night. Sean and I went out after for 30 minutes. I was very tired after the day and we just had a beer and a chat.
1 hour of theory/Q&A with Cupid and Cieran.
4 hours infield.
At least 20 sets. My first clubbing night without any alcohol and tobacco, I’m pretty happy about that
1 number closed: 2 sets, a cute milf and her hairdresser. Open them with Hey and a smile. They answered me that they just wanted to talk together. I stayed there and managed to hook. Talk about the difference between hairdresser in France and England. Numclose the cute milf at the end. She doesn’t live in London and I don’t think I’ll contact her.
1 facebook close. 5 sets of French and German girl. German girl was cuter but I didn’t notice it at first and I directly opened the less cute French girl. She was about 20 and quite alright anyway. Nice group interaction at the beginning. Steve came in the set later and I isolated the French girl from the group thanks to him. 15 minutes talk, she was looking quite into me but I didn’t escalate. Ask for her number, she told me her phone was new and she couldn’t remember her number. She gave me her facebook. She accepted my friend request toady.
It is quite impossible to know if a set is going to be good or not before going in. Some ugly girls were bitchy and some very cute girls were friendly and clearly there to meet new people.
1 hour of theory with cupic, cieran and kingy
Street game at least 30 sets
Hard start but went well later on. Stopped and had a talk with most of the sets. I could have closed a fair number of girls if I was more confident/less stress.
1 numclose. A bored girl from Slovenia who was waiting for a friends. She was living on Tuesday, I was busy on Monday with friends so I didn’t contact her.
Za Zen and “love” meditation pretty cool and pretty useful. My main sticky point is that I look too stress when I enter a set and mediation can help. It would have been cool to see a monk.
HB helper Chloe. Very nice girl. Practise opening. Feedback: need to look less stress and be chickier. Feedback on cloth: I’m a bit to generic.
Night game in Waxy O’Conner’s. 3 sets. I tried canned opener and didn’t really enjoy it.
Feedback from the instructor.
- I opened a lot in street and see that it can work for me. I need to push myself a bit more and it will become an habit
- I have never opened directly before. It works pretty well and I love it.
- I want to introduce more fun in the conversation and need to practice more to be more relax and calibrate it.
I’m very happy to meet Rich, Steve and Shean who all have different personalities but all are great persons. Seeing their social interactions also help a lot to realise what was wrong/right in what I was doing.
Action plan for the next 30 days:
Open 3 sets a day in direct on the way to work or lunch time.
Nigh game at least twice a week.
Find some wings/friends to make the way more pleasurable.
Be more relax before opening and practice more to become more confident.
Introduce more Kino during the interaction.
Keep a diary.
They all had different experiences and have different personalities which is great and make it easier to relate with and find our own style.
Cieran is 10m high and full of joy from the toes to the hair. He has a contagious fun vibe and he is an opening machine. It was great to see him opening so many sets. In-sight form his own experience were very useful.
Cupid has a cool chicky vibe, he is very focus on what we want to improve and goes straight to the point.
Kingy has a more alpha attitude and dominant presence. It does not talk a lot but always leads the conversation and get amazing results.
My first session, about two weeks after the bootcamp, involved us going to Notting Hill where he forced me to open sets continuously. I was given two openers to say to the girls, both of which involved asking for their opinion on relationship issues. Approach anxiety within a few weeks was minimal, the highlight was opening mixed sets using Rob’s engagement ring opener, holding the attention of the guys of the group and walking away with my head held high from gaining the respect of the group!! I remember being so elevated after my first session where I got three number closes that I could hardly sleep that night!!
A few weeks later I remember being on a one-on-one with Rob, we were in a bar in Chelsea, full of very good looking girls and guys who were splashing the cash and he told me to walk all the way across the room and open these two girls who were deep in conversation with each other. After calling him a cunt (he allowed me to swear at him before going in set as it relieved the tension and I recommend you should all do this Smiley) for him telling me to approach some girls who I thought were way out of my league at the time, I relented and went over, and opened with his Wanted or Needed routine followed by his Three Criteria test. They were soon eating out of my hand, got them to join our table and then found out that one of them, the one who I was interested in and was sitting at our table was a porn star.
I didn’t go for the full close as was scared of pushing the boat even further. Whilst I was walking with her to Boujis after from the bar we were in, my lack of dominance or leading was apparent (although not to me at the time) and after I had been blown out by her in the club, my final comment received from Rob at the end of the night was that I needed to lead more. He then proceeded to get a threesome with two American girls who he had brought from the previous bar along with pulling the porn star who I had opened!! And turning down Kate Middleton as he didn’t know who she was and said she was a bit fat!!
Anyway I decided to do a 1-on-1 bootcamp with Beckster in Scandinavia in November, which I guess was the time I started going from an unconscious incompetent to a conscious incompetent. Don’t get me wrong, I had many successes such as kissing girls in under a minute in Boujis during my sessions before this but I never really fully believed in what was possible and I think that has only really come now. Being pushed into set after set in Scandinavia, day and night time (I now believe any dichotomy between day and night game should be avoided if one is using it as a reason to limit themselves as we are all sexual beings with our sexual drives which should not be sublimated at any time), really opened my eyes and highlights for me included pulling three girls in one night, getting phone numbers galore, and seeing the teacher in action. Every night was a different girl for Rob, and he made it look so effortless.
Following my trip to Scandinavia, I went to Madrid to see a girl who I had slept with in London a month before, my only full success so far having started the game in May. I remember being told by Beckster one of my biggest problems was dominance, the first time I met her in a bar in London, I fluff talked with her for a bit as she was a friend of a friend and whilst sitting down on a couch next to her I wrote on her arm that she belonged to me. I led completely in our interaction verbally and non-verbally and after a day3, this total domination of her frame resulted in her calling me master a minute after I had fucked her for the first time and me calling her slave!! She told me she loved the way how I just always led her in everything we did. When I went to Madrid to see her again she paid for everything (apart from my first night’s hotel room which I had booked) and she even took me to the local DVD (not the adult one unfortunately:))store to buy me her favourite DVD. Dominance is lethal!!
One of the most important lessons I learnt from my one-on-ones was the importance of persistence. We were both out in Koko in Camden on a Saturday night. I was feeling like shit, was getting blown out of every set or more correctly was blowing myself out of nearly every set by ejecting too early and after about three hours I was close to going home. Beckster told me to open one more set, he said ‘This is the time you will learn the most.’ A group of two girls walked past us, I got up and said to them as they were passing from one room to another that they didn’t want to go in the other room as it was crap and a few people had thrown up in there and it smelt like shit (Note how much shit you can say in an opener and get away with it if it is done confidently), they didn’t believe me and so I left them. A few minutes later, one came to sit next to me and the other next to Beckster and within two minutes I was pulling one and Beckster was pulling the other!! This seemed too easy. If I could bottle up the feeling I felt after, it was intense!
The 1-on-1s continued, until about March 2008 when I made a conscious decision to resign from my job and concentrate on improving the personal side of my life even more.
Two months ago I went with Beckster on holiday to Berlin and Munich- and I have to say I have never learnt so much in those 10 days as I had ever done before.
The guy is intense, always on the alert for any IOIs coming of any woman at any time. We would be walking down the street and he would be spotting both the IOIs that women were giving me in addition to himself! Although now I look back and can see it was because everyone was checking me out and not him Smiley When you spend as much time as that with a person their good habits rub off on you. As an aside, I am a firm believer in improving your inner game and taking the inside to outside approach to pickup whereby you work on your insecurities and negative beliefs and thought patterns primarily whilst starting off. However to learn productive ways in which to think, the journey can be more rapid by spending time with people who have their inner game locked down and copying the things they do well. A lot of people who come into the game are stuck in their heads, myself included, although less so now and I hardly remember having my primary focus on myself whilst interacting and sarging with Beckster during the time in Germany just by interacting with him and even more importantly just having a fun time out there!
If one spends any time with people who are successful in any field, they all seem to share the same core internal characteristics. One can see from Beckster‘s dedication to his teaching and his dedication to understanding the principles behind successful social interactions with women the importance of this quality. When I say I am beginning to understand game, I mean that I am beginning to understand the dedication, persistence, convictions, correct goal setting, and energetics required to be good at this and this is in no small part down to the example set by Rob.
As a caveat, never compare yourself to anyone else, hanging out with someone who has been in the game for 12 years plus can force you to ruminate on your shortcomings and lack of experience in this field. This can show itself in a subtle and very destructive outcome dependency where you either want to match them or beat them at their own game and this certainly did not help me initially. I can still see myself doing this when I am out with other people.
Whilst in Germany I took out a small notebook and pen that I could fit into my back pocket and would write down any lessons learnt, whenever something popped into my head or Beckster commented on an interaction of mine. I wrote down 28 lessons learnt by the end of the trip and that did not include my random scribblings which contained other thoughts that popped into my head relevant to game. A valid point told to me was to write down a mistake made and the lesson learnt and then cross out the mistakes as one succeeded in not making the same pitfall in a following similar setting.
One of the main problems for people learning pickup is that it is easy to tell someone be persistent, don’t be a pussy, keep ploughing on in a set which all mean the same thing to me which is to always be escalating with a girl and keep pushing it. However to really sink into one’s head the message has to be said in a way that resonates with the person either reading or hearing it (cf representational systems in NLP).
Beckster pushed me to open a girl in a park in Berlin and after about 5 minutes of talking to her and getting on really well with her, she said to me do you want to go to the bushes to have a smoke.
Me being the chode that I was and not understanding the underlying message of ‘Let’s go somewhere private, just you and me,’ said no as I didn’t want to trigger my asthma and went back to speak to Beckster and another mate of ours. I think I understood the underlying message; I just did not want to register it and push beyond my comfort boundaries out of insecurity. Telling them what had happened, they started laughing (in a good way) and told me ‘Stop being a pussy!’ ‘Don’t be a fucking pussy! You didn’t have to smoke, you could have just sat with her, escalated and maybe banged her in the bushes!’ This really pissed me off and has since forced me to escalate a lot lot more in my interactions with women. I don’t know if Beckster was aware of it but I’m sure he was, but being told this was exactly what I need to hear and in words that would resonate and have the maximum effect on me. I wrote this as lesson 1 and lesson 9 to 15 in my notebook. This did not happen again in that trip.
Who gives a fuck about escalation, we are all in the same boat (Beckster said to me once remember we are all in the same boat, knowing I’m in the same boat as Beckster has made things a lot more real to me), we all worry about the same things and are just as insecure as each other, hence there should be no problem to put your balls on the line, show your intent to the girl and deal with what happens. Analysing this in terms of risk/reward, the risk is that you will have wasted a few minutes of your time and energy with the girl and the reward is that you get to fuck her or do any of the other naughty things you want to do to her.
I remember being on a dance floor in Germany and even without being aware Beckster would be commenting on how to improve my technique of opening girls on the dance floor. For example, how to bump girls at the right angle when they walked past you and that the subsequent forced IOI should be quick. This meant using your hips to bump them on their hips when they were walking in the opposite direction to you just before they passed you and then making a quick glance, before hiding your eyes behind your hand as if to avert their gaze and then quickly looking back with a cheekie grin. Even during a day game session when I was being pushed, he said to me that I still hesitated sometimes when I opened sets, I needed to kino less in the daytime and fractionate my standing position. Fractionating my standing position meant to keep moving where you stood around the girl to show you were animated and to keep changing her point of focus on you, i.e. moving from a three o’clock position relative to her to an eleven o’clock position, or move the girl around you. Other lessons included realising not to ask anyone for an opener, what you say does not matter too much (only do this once you have proved this to yourself) and this is a form of hesitation, speak slower when abroad and my back of the hand kino was too harsh with too much pressure applied. Also always carry your camera.
Beckster was on form in Germany. On the first night he approached two girls in a club in Berlin who hardly spoke any English, bumped one of them on the hips, forced an IOI, high fived her and twirled her around and to get her friend involved high fived both of them at the same time and twirled them so that he was dancing with both of them him in the middle of a sandwich. After all he said ‘One should always go for the threesome!’
Never underestimate the importance of dance-floor game. I’m not saying one needs to have loads of funky moves but if you can dance with no inhibitions and are enjoying yourself at the same time girls will notice. I don’t recommend doing this in Tiger Tiger or anywhere in London where there is likely to be loads of glass on the dancefloor, but sliding on the floor between two girls dancing as demonstrated by Beckster was a highly effective way to open. The girls loved it and were soon posing for photographs with old twinkle-toes!! I also remember a time when we were walking in Munich looking for something to eat and the German equivalent of Liberty X was playing typical Euro-pop in a massive stage that had been erected on one of the streets that we were passing by. Then in front of the stage Beckster started pulling off all his boy band moves as an example to show me how with little inhibitions and no outcome-dependency you could gain attraction. A small crowd started to gather around and he was forcing of IOIs off of all the girls in the circle around him.
And then came to my turn… I couldn’t do it, I used the excuse in my head that I didn’t have the dance- floor moves to dance in front of everyone on the street. These are the times when one looks back at opportunities missed and wished I had taken them. At the time I consoled myself with the fact that I number closed some girl in under two minutes who was working at the festival behind one of the stalls by forcing IOIs of her, i.e. by sticking my tongue out at her from a distance, looking at her and then quickly looking away to the side and hiding my face with my hand and then looking back with a smile and so on. It was a rush as it was the moment when I fully gained conviction in forcing IOIs at a distance and I frequently do it now when I am out in the field. When those adrenaline highs come along, keep pushing and a few minutes later I was doing my ‘karate-kid’ dance in front of a group of girls who were dining alfresco in a restaurant that we passed. Whenever you do a crazy dance it must never be for the approval of the people who you are dancing for, or at least not telegraph this to them. The girls dining were in hysterics.
Having done several 1-on-1s with Beckster and spent time with the guy, I guess in Germany he definitely proved just how good his skills at game were. We were going to a swanky rooftop bar in Munich, and Beckster opened a two set of models in the queue. No magic opener, just something situational having listened into their conversation. One was a swimsuit model –I don’t get out of bed for less that £5000 a day type of girl!!- he was working his magic on the dance floor after chatting with them and re-opening and isolating her and finding out that she was to be in London for a photo shoot the following week. I remember that she asked him four times to come with her to an after party at another club and ever the smooth seducer, fending her off each time, her face just dropping ever so slightly each time at the fact that someone had the balls to stand up to her and not do everything she wanted. He subsequently closed her in London!
The last night was low energy, spent in the tourist bars of Munich, and just enjoying a few quiet drinks, reminiscing over the all the crazy times that we had had in Germany. We were sat at a bar, and a mother with her daughter were sat next to us on the adjacent bar stools, facing away from us. I opened the daughter who was sat next to me, gently teasing her about some weirdly coloured drink that she and her mother had bought. The conversation was short, and after a minute I turned back to Beckster and carried on my conversation with him. Sometimes he tries to teach you and offer advice for your own benefit but at the time you are thinking ‘What a complete bastard!!’(But then after minutes or even months you understand what he was on about, like Mr Miyagi) After about five minutes he told me to reopen the same set which I thought was pointless as the initial conversation had quickly died out (badly) just to push boundaries, I quickly connected with the daughter on the topic of our travels, and after about an hour of flirtatious kino and random chat, I knew this was going to be an easy kiss close. Rob said later you feed off hooks and that I found a connection; this is natural and very attractive.
I needed to get her away from her mother, so I took her hand, told her that I needed to get some fresh air outside, led her outside, pushed her up against the wall and kissed her! She then went back and told her mum (they both quite easily could have passed for sisters) who by now was trying to pull Beckster. By the way she invited me to New York to see her as she is going to work over there- I may have to take her up on that offer later in the year…
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